This is like Dave Filoni succeeding with Clone Wars and Rebels leading to his role as CCO for Lucasfilm.
L0lligag2025-11-11 21:31
Ehh, sort of. You’re afforded a lot more leeway with animated projects. Some of Filoni’s live action shows have not been received very well. However, I do know what you mean.
On the other hand the Russo’s have an incredible track record with live action MCU projects. You could argue they’ve yet to “miss.”
The Russo’s have a much better argument to receiving the keys to the MCU than Filoni does for Star Wars.
thrust-johnson2025-11-11 21:13
A loose structure with certain required events with room for flexibility. Stick to the structure.
Caciulacdlac2025-11-11 21:13
Well they tried other things and didn't work. Might as well stay forever with the MCU.
DietTuna2025-11-11 21:17
The Gray Man was legitimately awful. Haven’t seen the other two but the reviews…. aren’t great lol
starlightkingdoms2025-11-11 21:22
When it first came out I saw so many positive reviews that I had to question myself because there’s no way we watched the same film, it was terrible
thanoshasbighands2025-11-11 21:30
Sound like most Marvel movies lately...
UltimateArtist8292025-11-11 21:32
Hey now, Thunderbolt and FF4 First Step were great.
thanoshasbighands2025-11-11 21:43
My point exactly. Watched them on streaming and shocked people actually believe that. To each their own
MrNobody_02025-11-11 22:01
What's shocking is your lack of taste.
SuccessMiserable39632025-11-11 21:25
All crap
Justice9892025-11-11 21:39
Eh, Gray Man wasn't THAT bad. I didn't love it, only saw ut once and never again. But I've seen legitimately awful and that wasn't it. But to each his own, I guess.
Griffdude132025-11-11 21:24
They’re a great cover band, nothing wrong with having originals that just don’t stack up.
AmericanDoughboy2025-11-11 21:31
They could call it “Jason Russo’s Almost Feige” or JRAF
Formal_Bicycle76562025-11-11 21:35
My dead head friends don’t like the MCU and vice versa. I have no one to share it with lol
NotMyFirst_LastName2025-11-11 21:44
We can share the women,
We can share the wine
JHogMakerOfVlogs2025-11-11 22:07
SAM124892025-11-11 22:43
Dan and Dave couldn’t write their own GOT either..:but they sure as hell carried the torch with incredible skill before they ran out of dense source material.
With that said, I think they may be given mor credit when Markus and Mcfeely deserve this crown quite a bit more than they get
0LoveAnonymous02025-11-11 21:28
>Well they tried other things and didn't work.
Why then is it advisable for them to oversee the next MCU SAGA moving forward?
usethe4th2025-11-11 21:30
Because everything they have worked on in the MCU to this point has been excellent.
0LoveAnonymous02025-11-11 21:32
But that was before their failed projects, not after. Maybe they have lost their charm and this move is not a great idea?
Caciulacdlac2025-11-11 21:35
If this is true (I think it's just a rumor), it means that the ones who made this move saw their work on Doomsday so far and considered that they didn't lose their charm.
0LoveAnonymous02025-11-11 21:37
Let's hope that's the case then because I really want Doomsday to be good.
megamanxzero352025-11-11 21:46
No no no. Us who aren’t in creative meetings, seeing dailies, casting actors, overseeing scripts know much more about what’s going on at Marvel then people making the movies.
Justice9892025-11-11 21:37
We'll find out soon enough when Doomsday comes out. And if Doomsday is a steaming pile of garbage, I would assume this report will go with it.
Marrow-Sun77262025-11-11 22:00
I enjoyed the Russos MCU stuff but also I never had any interest in anything they made on their own.
Diortheking2025-11-11 22:01
I feel like comic book movies are different for them because they’re adapting a story already told just adding a little spin to it. But they know what comic fans like
dirtyricks2025-11-11 22:21
You also have to consider that making a movie adaptation and making a movie from scratch are two very different skill sets, they very clearly excel in one more than the other
megadroid_optimizer2025-11-11 21:30
Point made!
demonoddy2025-11-11 21:32
Because they made 4 of the best comic book movies ever
MasterAnnatar2025-11-11 21:46
Because ultimately they have shown that when it comes to adaptations they ARE really strong directors. Ultimately it's just a different skill set and that's okay.
_IratePirate_2025-11-11 22:19
Probably because their directing style is more Disneyfied and Disney viewers like that
That Disneyfied directing is very obvious outside of Disney movies
defiledtyrant2025-11-11 21:32
Till they're 90
Jazzlike_Creme_88512025-11-11 22:49
Oh, they can probably keep it going well past 90 if they just use a little....*creativity*...
Jhawksmoor2025-11-11 21:33
Their other films are terrible. It's so weird.
Waste-Scratch29822025-11-11 21:36
I feel like they’ve burned bridges with Amazon and Netflix. Citadel was supposed to be an international spy universe but they spent $300m on a 6 episode season, and the spinoffs were both cancelled, and there’s still no timeline as when Season 2 will be out. Jenn Salke who greenlit the project at Amazon is also out. Gray Man and Electric State at Netflix were also widely expensive and definitely didn’t kickstart a new franchise for Netflix to pursue, also Scott Stuber who probably greenlit those also left Netflix.
TrueLegateDamar2025-11-11 21:52
I thought they were still releasing Citadel spin-offs, like 4-5 by now, because they were that convinced it would be a hit.
Also Salke wasn't fired just for that, she also gave Phoebe Waller-Bridge a 100 million for doing absolutely fuck-all, and failed to get the Broccolis to sign off on new Bond projects.
haste3192025-11-11 22:41
The_1_Narrator2025-11-11 22:54
TomClancy58732025-11-11 22:59
Think it might be because they have to stick to a strict guideline, and can’t get too creative
Saurondur2025-11-11 21:14
That makes sense. If these two are gonna be the go-to Avengers/big event film directors, then looking over everything so they can wrap up what's important at the end of a Phase or Saga makes the most sense and seems like will guarantee a strong finale which ends important arcs and stories
tanglon2025-11-11 21:14
Isn't it Feige's whole job to orchestrate the shared universe and ensure cohesion?
lifesyndrom2025-11-11 21:17
Yeah but now they can handle the story side of it while Feige handles dealing with the studio and execs. It’s a win win so now Feige and the Russos can put full focus on their department.
Imagine like this. The Russo bros build the house and Feige’s sells it
(I am not an expert on this I’m just yapping my ass off)
harmoniaatlast2025-11-11 21:17
No, its his job to oversee everything. Comics, TV, movies, and to delegate to directors and other creatives as needed. The Russo brothers are those aforementioned creatives
tanglon2025-11-11 21:29
That's interesting, I didn't realize he had been promoted to Chief Creative Officer for the other Marvel divisions, just thought he was President of Marvel Studios.
o-055-o2025-11-11 21:35
This happened around 5 years ago, around the time Marvel Entertainment was folded into Marvel Studios and the Marvel TV shows were all finished/cancelled.
zion_hiker19112025-11-11 22:16
So around the time everything started going to shit then.
harmoniaatlast2025-11-11 22:20
Yeah we had this weird virus going around. It killed like .3% of the US so yeah, things got dicey
zion_hiker19112025-11-11 22:23
I blame Feige for the pandemic
o-055-o2025-11-11 22:21
Around the time the pandemic hit and completely shifted the industry, yep.
Business_Sand95542025-11-11 22:29
Yeah he’s definitely not qualified to run all of marvel. He was great for the mcu but when he added all the other titles, you can tell it’s way too much for him and he’s chosen very poorly when delegating responsibilities
harmoniaatlast2025-11-11 21:49
Yeah nope, he is THE Marvel boss
Jason_with_a_jay2025-11-11 22:53
It's not the first time Feige has turned over key creative control. Or the first attempt. Before Disney fired Gunn, he was going to be in charge of all the cosmic movies.
TheFitz0232025-11-11 22:02
games?
harmoniaatlast2025-11-11 22:16
It did belong to Marvel Entertainment buuuut that got split up when Perlmutter got canned so who knows where that landed. I would assume that's under Marvel Comics or something
edit: yep disney took that over to disney interactive
No-Sweet-63372025-11-11 21:19
He’s got the task of being producer outside of managing where the storyline is going, I’m sure he would love to not wear two hats at the same time and considering what we’ve seen from his overseeing of things since Endgame, I’d say he’s burned out on that end and probably just wants to step aside and stay in a producer role.
demonoddy2025-11-11 21:33
Yeah but Kevin isn’t a creative. He’s just there to make sure it all runs smoothly
xplodia2025-11-11 22:20
He's one man stretched thin to anywhere, not to mention busy with corporat politics. It would be better if the whole MCU is handled by someone else.
eagc72025-11-11 22:34
Feige resposabilities at Marvel have grown ever since 2019, he's spread to thin to oversee every single aspect of everything they have. heck he now even oversees comics and other stuff.
WallyOShay2025-11-11 21:17
Should be Iman vellani
Jet-Let46062025-11-11 21:24
Starting from Phase 8.
ChampionshipDue64932025-11-11 23:24
Fuck no
Inferno_Zyrack2025-11-11 21:20
I can’t complain. Infinity War is honestly one of the greatest superhero films ever written and put to film. I can’t imagine trying to cleanly write meaningful lines and arcs for that many characters in a single film.
SuccessMiserable39632025-11-11 21:26
They didnt write it.
DonquixoteDFlamingo2025-11-11 22:18
But they heavily heavily collaborated with Markus and McFeely in the creation of it
KaijuKing0072025-11-11 21:22
Fair enough. So are we aiming for a Supernatural threat like Dracula as the next Big Bad or is it time to hyperfocus on Mutants to the exclusion of all else?
PheterPharker2025-11-11 21:24
The only thing I don't like about the Russos is how dirty they did my boy Hulk. They basically nerfed him after Avengers 1 and Thor Ragnarok
CaptainHalfBeard2025-11-11 21:32
Russo Brothers aren't the writers.
Markus and McFreely wrote the screenplay for Endgame and Infinity War.
TheEnlightendone12025-11-11 22:04
Then what did they do?
varnums16662025-11-11 22:39
If I recall, originally Hulk was supposed to erupts from the Hulk Buster in infinity war but it got cut for some reason. So all the hulk stuff kinda got off screened.
SuccessMiserable39632025-11-11 21:24
Hmmm..if its as part of the mcu machine then ok... if its them taking more of a lead role without that machine around them.. well theyve produced utter crap outside of the mcu. So i wouldnt be ennthused
Teganfff2025-11-11 21:25
PLEASE
2dal3atcave2025-11-11 21:25
Fuck, well now im starting to get excited for MCU stuff again.
demonoddy2025-11-11 21:34
Just don’t watch electric state lol
DirectConsequence122025-11-11 21:40
Or Cherry or The Gray Man
ZekeorSomething2025-11-11 21:50
Or You, Me, and Dupree
DirectConsequence122025-11-11 22:20
That was them?!
ZekeorSomething2025-11-11 22:32
Yes it was
demonoddy2025-11-11 22:05
Markus and Mcfeely have a fun filmography too. They famously did the Narnia movies
mjb858582025-11-11 21:26
They come from TV, and some of the best TV at that (arrested development and community).
It makes sense that they can crush it in a long form story like that (with call backs and setups that take years to pay off).
sixwingmildsauce2025-11-11 22:59
That’s honestly such a good point. Hadn’t thought about it before, but the MCU really does use a lot of the same formula as arrested development in terms of set ups and callbacks.
capeasypants2025-11-11 23:15
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice...
BreakAble48572025-11-11 21:27
We need them to save MCU... so many films failed miserably i would say without the proper structure, At this point its only nostalgia that most people are after..Like even russo's civil war was so well written, only they can handle multiple great superheroes well
sidewaysduck_2025-11-11 21:27
This could be a smart choice, act as the James Gunn of the MCU, while letting Kevin work more on the business side with occasional input
vulcans_pants2025-11-11 22:12
I’m sometimes think about the fact that the Russos, Feige, and Gunn apparently all had offices right next to each other during the peak of the MCU and would often collaborate, and how much of the MCU’s success might actually belong to Gunn.
varnums16662025-11-11 22:37
I give the Russos a lot of shit but they knew how to play with the MCU pieces relatively well. I can definitely see how all 3 parties made the MCU so successful.
Weird_Ad_13982025-11-11 22:38
Maybe it was a synergistic effect, because it seems none of them have the magic in their newer projects they had in their older MCU ones.
Fenian-Monger2025-11-11 23:15
TSS is arguably Gunn's best effort and Superman was received really well.
Darth_Thor2025-11-11 23:49
Haven't seen The Suicide Squad yet, but Superman was really good! Felt really fresh and was just entertaining the whole way through
Fenian-Monger2025-11-12 03:06
Can't recommend TSS enough, it Gunn's style almost perfected and also his best looking film. I didn't mess with it at first but now I've rewatch it countless times, just an overall great film and the first season of Peacemakers is also great.
smcl2k2025-11-11 23:48
I'd expect this to be a far narrower role than Gunn's - don't forget that his boss at WBD knows literally nothing about how to make scripted TV and film, and often appears to actively dislike it.
There's no way Feige is handing anyone the keys to the kingdom.
ike_tyson2025-11-11 21:28
I thought they were doing Battle Of The Planets aka G Force aka Gatchaman Science Ninja Team.
😭
MisterSpicy2025-11-11 21:28
Daddy Kevin need a vacation
Hippo_in_limbo2025-11-12 07:14
He needs a permanent vacation. He avoided returning to the actual talent who were responsible for the success of the MCU. Now, he is forced to pivot. How embarrassing.
FullGuarantee47672025-11-11 21:29
If anything this at least indicates Marvel is happy with what they’re doing so far. Whether or not we all like what they’re doing remains to be seen but nice vote of confidence to see this far out. Man… I really hope these movies are good. I still enjoy going to see MCU movies but there was something really special about the run they were on leading up to the end of the Infinity Saga.
HyperlinksAwakening2025-11-11 21:29
This move is streets ahead.
UltimateArtist8292025-11-11 21:31
Crazy how they made some of the best MCU movies of all time, but can't work their magic again when making other non-comic book original movies.
wantttochat2025-11-11 21:31
Just call them the Marvel brothers at this point
demonoddy2025-11-11 21:31
Good. The russos seem to have a special magic when working with marvel
BoreusSimius2025-11-11 21:33
This is brilliant. Less so that it's them, and more so that there will be a unified vision for the Saga.
NervousAd32022025-11-11 21:33
Good, the MCU was at its peak in phase 2-3 when the Russos were directing most of the major projects that pushed the overarching narrative forward (Civil War, IW, Endgame ofc)
Plus their own movies outside Marvel haven’t done very well. I feel like sticking together is just best for both sides here.
I hope Doomsday & Secret Wars are bangers that reinvigorate the general audiences interest in the MCU going into the next saga.
AdmiralCharleston2025-11-11 21:36
I absolutely would mind. They're good at dropping in and dealing with parts of a story that are mostly set up because they're tv directors, but they aren't good story tellers.
As if they need a reason to be more smug
Ok-Hearing-3032025-11-11 21:36
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and no.
ItsChris_8776_2025-11-11 21:37
I would also love if they got a bunch of comic writers to pitch in like the DCU is doing. Combining screenwriters with comic writers who understand the characters better than anyone else would be peak.
havocxrush2025-11-11 21:43
No. No no no. These idiots make the work too grounded.
KindofaDB2025-11-11 21:51
Endgame was too grounded?
havocxrush2025-11-11 21:52
A bit yes. But Winter Soldier... F'ing hated that mess. I prefer 100% camp in my hero films.
OnlyOneBT2025-11-11 21:59
Lshamlad2025-11-11 21:45
I agree entirely, but honestly, they had me at 'overall story' for the next phase(s).
Jerb222025-11-11 21:53
Good, but also they are the reason endgame was.. mid for majority of the film.
Reader-_-2025-11-11 21:55
What does this mean?
eagc72025-11-11 22:31
According to the report, Feige wants to have someone to make sure the narrative of the next saga is tightly connected and not spread all over the place as in the Multiverse Saga which was one of the complaints many fans had in that there are soooo many story arcs that don't sync with the main narrative
RD_Life_Enthusiast2025-11-11 22:01
So, let's say this happens, and Secret Wars is enough of a success that there is stomach to do another multi-character, multi-film arc culminating in a two-part "all-hands" sort of thing.
What's the story arc? We've got the Infinity Gauntlet. We've got Secret Wars. It'd HAVE to be something mutant focused where the current cast takes a backseat, right?
House of M?
TDStarchild2025-11-11 22:01
Unpossible. I thought Doomsday was going to be the biggest disaster since Blockbuster?
At least, that’s what people who pretend to be Marvel fans while rooting for them to fail told us
Nevermind that the Russos haven’t made a non-top 10 MCU movie nor one that wasn’t one of the highest ROI blockbusters of the year
anotherone12902025-11-11 22:02
Aaaand it’s all over. Well it’s been fun everyone; I was excited to get over the secret wars hump and into some fresh storytelling potential again, but it looks like the MCU just can’t stop chasing their c. 2019 cash cow instead of looking to the future. Ah well. There’s always rewatches
TheFastestKnight2025-11-11 22:04
I love how OP posts a random post from a random Instagram account (called "comic") that claims something using the word "reportedly" and *without providing an actual source* and every single comment acts like it's true and officially confirmed.
Like, not one person takes this with a grain of salt. I guess I expect too much.
Edit: another person posted a similar thing on the Marvel sub and the source was the clowns at Cosmic Circus lmao
Revolutionary_Job2142025-11-11 22:05
Nobody gaf anymore its been dogshit with barely anything good
FlixMage2025-11-11 22:06
Old Tom Holland and short Joe Gatto
Nice-Gap-35282025-11-11 22:10
I mean if they’ve got an idea and vision for it, why not?
BenjaminAPete22025-11-11 22:12
Not mad at this at all. Good idea.
atsunatsu2025-11-11 22:16
I remember when they were suppose to take over after Endgame but Kevin said no, hired James Gunn to take over and the Rick and Morty writers to handle the multiverse and then James Gunn got fired bc MAGA exposes his weird tweets and then the Rick and Morty writers just..... fizzeled
Mister-Lavender2025-11-11 22:18
Too late. The damage is already done.
pac_man19482025-11-11 22:21
Why is that a good thing? Aren't they the ones filming 'Avengers Doomsday' without a completed script?
eagc72025-11-11 22:30
They have 4 wins so far in the MCU, that's enough for me to trust them
Besides we haven't seen Doomsday yet, it may work or it may not work.
Time_Entertainer_3192025-11-11 22:35
I swiped
Pastawithcheesee2025-11-11 22:39
marvel should hire people like them, people that actually love marvel and cinema.
mega22222222222222222025-11-11 22:41
All I want is a mutant saga done justice
ReplacementDue1232025-11-11 22:42
Please and thank you
Zeothalen2025-11-11 22:43
Can't see this being any worse that the last phase
dsneybuf912025-11-11 22:44
No more substantial roles for Asian actors then?
Vangmeister2025-11-11 22:51
They’re only half the equation. Without Markus and McFeely, it’s incomplete. Markus and McFeely were responsible for the scripts.
Hippo_in_limbo2025-11-11 22:56
This is proof that Feige has always been overrated as the reason the MCU was great.
Let's thank the following talents:
Joss Whedon
Russo Brothers
James Gunn
Jon Favreau
Mcfeely bros
Ryan coogler
Daniel cretton
Jon Watts.
Character-Pirate12972025-11-11 22:56
The lack of consistency and general failure of phase 5, plus the need to amp up the more obscure storylines that are left, gives more chance of this being actually valid.
Oh, please be true.
tom-of-the-nora2025-11-11 22:57
Who did the good movies.
Use their writing talent.
Signal_Expression7302025-11-11 22:58
They make flop an important movie of 400 million dollars movie and they didn't even write Infinity War and Endgame. Like, JUST them absolutely not. With the writers of Infinity War and Endgame yes.
Darrensucks2025-11-11 22:59
God these guys are gonna be billionaires by the time marvel let’s them get away
MrKevora2025-11-11 23:03
I wonder whether the Mutant Saga will open with a conventional X-Men movie or whether it will just focus on individual (or smaller groups of) mutants’ stories, while the actual X-Men movies will be the next big ensemble crossovers that will run parallel to whatever the next Avengers movies will be about, basically opening and closing each phase with one of those crossovers.
Independent-Ad26152025-11-11 23:06
They love ai and have said they hate movies. Why would you NOT be mad about this?? This is why the MCU is a joke lmfao, there is no artistic vision involved and the fans dont even care.
patwm112025-11-11 23:13
Disney needs to wrap it up
Ambitious-Pirate-5052025-11-11 23:19
SomewhereChillin2025-11-11 23:19
Finally
TheMoorNextDoor2025-11-11 23:39
Forever seat.
They are essentially going to take over Feige’s old spot at this point.
IronStealthRex2025-11-11 23:55
We're fucked
Vast_Rule93272025-11-12 00:01
"You couldn't live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to Me." --- Thanos
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On the other hand the Russo’s have an incredible track record with live action MCU projects. You could argue they’ve yet to “miss.”
The Russo’s have a much better argument to receiving the keys to the MCU than Filoni does for Star Wars.
We can share the wine
With that said, I think they may be given mor credit when Markus and Mcfeely deserve this crown quite a bit more than they get
Why then is it advisable for them to oversee the next MCU SAGA moving forward?
That Disneyfied directing is very obvious outside of Disney movies
Oh, they can probably keep it going well past 90 if they just use a little....*creativity*...
Also Salke wasn't fired just for that, she also gave Phoebe Waller-Bridge a 100 million for doing absolutely fuck-all, and failed to get the Broccolis to sign off on new Bond projects.
Imagine like this. The Russo bros build the house and Feige’s sells it
(I am not an expert on this I’m just yapping my ass off)
edit: yep disney took that over to disney interactive
Markus and McFreely wrote the screenplay for Endgame and Infinity War.
It makes sense that they can crush it in a long form story like that (with call backs and setups that take years to pay off).
There's no way Feige is handing anyone the keys to the kingdom.
😭
Plus their own movies outside Marvel haven’t done very well. I feel like sticking together is just best for both sides here.
I hope Doomsday & Secret Wars are bangers that reinvigorate the general audiences interest in the MCU going into the next saga.
As if they need a reason to be more smug
What's the story arc? We've got the Infinity Gauntlet. We've got Secret Wars. It'd HAVE to be something mutant focused where the current cast takes a backseat, right?
House of M?
At least, that’s what people who pretend to be Marvel fans while rooting for them to fail told us
Nevermind that the Russos haven’t made a non-top 10 MCU movie nor one that wasn’t one of the highest ROI blockbusters of the year
Like, not one person takes this with a grain of salt. I guess I expect too much.
Edit: another person posted a similar thing on the Marvel sub and the source was the clowns at Cosmic Circus lmao
Besides we haven't seen Doomsday yet, it may work or it may not work.
Let's thank the following talents:
Joss Whedon
Russo Brothers
James Gunn
Jon Favreau
Mcfeely bros
Ryan coogler
Daniel cretton
Jon Watts.
Oh, please be true.
Use their writing talent.
They are essentially going to take over Feige’s old spot at this point.